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Bloomberg Television - Ripple CEO Says SEC Has Been a 'Bully' to Crypto

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Main recommendation: Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse argues that the SEC should stop using enforcement actions against crypto companies and instead provide clear rules of the road, as the judge's ruling showed XRP sales on exchanges, as compensation, and as ecosystem incentives are not securities. He also argues that institutional sales under the specific circumstances in the ruling could qualify as securities, which he calls a narrow piece of the decision. The discussion centers on the ruling's real-world effects on U.S. exchange listings and Ripple's business.

Key Points

  • The SEC brought three lawsuits, against Chris Larsen, Brad Garlinghouse, and Ripple; according to Garlinghouse, the SEC lost the cases against Larsen and him personally, and Ripple mostly won its case.
  • The judge ruled that XRP is not a security intrinsically, but institutional sales under certain circumstances could be considered securities, which Garlinghouse describes as the smallest piece of the decision.
  • Sales through exchanges, compensation, and incentives across the XRP ecosystem were ruled not to be securities, according to Garlinghouse.
  • After the ruling, Bitstamp, Gemini, Kraken, and Coinbase re-listed or announced plans to list XRP, which Garlinghouse presents as a result of clarity.
  • Garlinghouse says Ripple's primary use case is cross-border payments, using XRP to increase speed and reduce cost, and says roughly 95 percent of Ripple's customers are non-U.S.
  • Garlinghouse says the SEC's approach of regulation through enforcement is not a good way to build a market, and that other countries such as the UK and Europe have provided clearer rules.

Details Worth Noting

  • Concrete instructions: No specific step-by-step instructions for investors, users, or businesses are given in the transcript. The only actionable guidance is the speaker's call for Congress to pass laws providing regulatory clarity, and his view that the SEC should provide clear rules of the road rather than pursue enforcement actions.
  • Market reaction cited by the speaker: Coinbase was up 25 percent the day before, and Garlinghouse says XRP's value was up somewhere between 50 and 80 percent.
  • The speaker says an SEC appeal would take years, and that he is optimistic any appeal would further solidify the judge's decision.
  • Garlinghouse says he is no longer worried about promoting XRP use cases now that the judge has set clear rules, whereas before the ruling he would have been cautious.
  • He describes the SEC as a "bully" that went after weak players who could not mount a defense, and says Ripple and Chris Larsen chose to fight the case directly.
  • Garlinghouse argues that the U.S. is losing ground to other countries on crypto regulation and that other nations did not consider XRP a security.

Bottom Line

The ruling is a significant but partial win for Ripple, leaving open that some institutional sales could still be treated as securities, while the speaker argues the broader result strengthens the case for Congress to set clear crypto rules.